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Post by humphrey on Feb 12, 2013 11:21:33 GMT -8
As far as spirituality goes, marijuana and other substances have the potential to allow things to be seen from alternate perspectives and even break people out of lifelong rigid viewpoints. The problem is usually that people want to remain in those alternate viewpoints and keep trying to access them over and over again. It's been a while since I've had any access to the stuff. Jiggering the perspective is the only reason I saw value in psychoactives. My recurring conclusion coming off highs and trips was always that 'Life is hard enough as it is' -- what little good judgement I have is needed to negotiate complex relationships, etc. gets pretty snapped when soaking in the goods. Some folks remain functional (modicum of good judgement). not me -- much more self-conscious. Despite that minus, the jiggering of the perspective is worth it. As far as mixing pot-high with exercise, personally I don't think I'd get as good of a workout. I'd lose that extra push. My max effort would be a little less. But, like I say, different strokes for different folks -- e.g. Michael Phelps. |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 13, 2013 20:42:50 GMT -8
I'm watching the Big Lebowski on showtime and thought maybe that was the answer to your question. Smoking and watching the dude brings back fond memories from college! But i've since decided my weed smoking is just a natural spontaneous enterprise I engage in after a hard days work. I'd say the dude's life is a mess and he's just drifting along, just barely functioning, kinda sleepwalking thru life. So, you take it for the sake of distraction? |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 13, 2013 20:45:01 GMT -8
What makes you use marijuana? Sometimes I also smoke weed and go to the gym to run on the treadmill. I even lift weights high sometimes. I don't know if the weed helps, but in my case, it don't hurt. So I got that goin for me too. Let you know if I think of anything else...  Maybe it's slowing down the hyper-minding for you. |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 13, 2013 20:46:39 GMT -8
That's true as long as you are talking about conditional clarity which depends on what you are doing with your focus. But it doesn't explain why those with a clear and healthy mind like Ramana and Niz had cancer. I'd say the body is always in a movement towards decay naturally. The incessent interference of thought which is typically the 'normal' human state can speed that process up. When that interference is absent, the body is in a better position to function and repair itself but it never becomes immune to it's own eventual disintegration. A clear healthy mind doesn't conclude anything about mind preventing any sort of eventual disease or pain. I'd say aging (change of appearance) is natural, but long and slow decline isn't. |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 13, 2013 20:50:37 GMT -8
As far as spirituality goes, marijuana and other substances have the potential to allow things to be seen from alternate perspectives and even break people out of lifelong rigid viewpoints. The problem is usually that people want to remain in those alternate viewpoints and keep trying to access them over and over again. Yes, breaking out of rigid vantage points. But it's not bringing clarity. In that sense it is similar to drinking. |
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Post by jasonlynch on Feb 14, 2013 11:19:47 GMT -8
I'm watching the Big Lebowski on showtime and thought maybe that was the answer to your question. Smoking and watching the dude brings back fond memories from college! But i've since decided my weed smoking is just a natural spontaneous enterprise I engage in after a hard days work. I'd say the dude's life is a mess and he's just drifting along, just barely functioning, kinda sleepwalking thru life. So, you take it for the sake of distraction? No. |
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Post by jasonlynch on Feb 14, 2013 11:20:57 GMT -8
Sometimes I also smoke weed and go to the gym to run on the treadmill. I even lift weights high sometimes. I don't know if the weed helps, but in my case, it don't hurt. So I got that goin for me too. Let you know if I think of anything else... Maybe it's slowing down the hyper-minding for you. If anything the exact opposite. Maybe you think way more than I do in a dead sober mind state, which would explain the projection. |
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Post by jasonlynch on Feb 14, 2013 11:25:26 GMT -8
As far as spirituality goes, marijuana and other substances have the potential to allow things to be seen from alternate perspectives and even break people out of lifelong rigid viewpoints. The problem is usually that people want to remain in those alternate viewpoints and keep trying to access them over and over again. Yes, breaking out of rigid vantage points. But it's not bringing clarity. In that sense it is similar to drinking. I wouldn't say smoking weed brings clarity, but that it can lead to an exacerbation of delusion or the 'churning up' of unconsciousness, which can increase the potential to notice what had previously been unnoticed. I think some psychiatrists use marijuana for regression therapy. I also have used it in this fashion. If you can handle the giraffes, it can be effective. In that sense, it isn't similar to drinking. |
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Post by wren on Feb 14, 2013 12:51:08 GMT -8
All I'm saying is that when your body is healthy, your state of mind will be healthier too. The opposite is valid too, and this whole healthy lifestyle started with my awakening, so I cannot argue with the notion that the healthier my mind is the better food choices I make. It's interwoven. That's true as long as you are talking about conditional clarity which depends on what you are doing with your focus. But it doesn't explain why those with a clear and healthy mind like Ramana and Niz had cancer. Time will show if this claim is correct..  |
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Post by jasonlynch on Feb 15, 2013 8:35:58 GMT -8
Ok so it's been a little while since my last status update. I'm down 21 pounds as of this morning. The question I asked today was, why did I desire to be above of what I thought was my ideal weight. Why was that acceptable?
Before I answer that, I'll say I do notice a strong corellation between sexual energy and food craving. In many instances, the food craving was a projection of sexual energy. I started gaining weight unchecked a couple years ago. Perhaps, there was an unconscious desire to be overweight, or what I thought was overweight, to keep anyone from getting close to me. I wanted to be alone for a while, which gave me the privilege of being a porker for a certain time period. From what I understand, being overweight can be a defense mechanism oriented to protect the fear of intimacy/vulnerability from being made fully conscious. This defense mechanism doesn't work, if there is also a pre-existing desire for intimacy and vulnerability, because of the split mind implication. I do think peeps can relate to the desire for intimacy. The desire for vulnerability, on the other hand, is one that I notice most folks aren't too comfy with.
Along those lines, I can't say I notice an actual program oriented to seek out or desire vulnerability. In a certain sense, being totally vulnerable is the least desirable thing. We sometimes say, the willingness to be totally vulnerable, is invulnerability, which means, there really is no such thing as the desire for vulnerability. Rather, the fear of vulnerability is an unconsciously driven dynamic. By becoming conscious of the driving forces, the fear is seen through, which leave a willingness to be vulnerable. That willingness is desirable, only to the extent the fear is undesirable. Of course if the fear exists, clearly, the fear is desired, otherwise it wouldn't manifest. Its a desirable protection mechanism, a projection of the fear of certain emotions. In the absence of that fear, is the freedom to feel whatever it is you might be geared up to feel at any given time.
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Post by jasonlynch on Mar 5, 2013 15:52:42 GMT -8
Welp, I eventually stopped weighing myself after losing about 24 pounds. I prolly put a few back on for personal reasons the week before I came across the country here to Portland. As they say, if it isn't authentic, it won't manifest. Or wait, I say that. Anyways, thanks for listening, and the support. Had some fun with this thread and feeling comfy at my new found weight.  |
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