Resonation - One of the ultimate illusions?

Ok, gonna be a lazy bunny and just spew two unrelated metaphors and then trail off into some heavy minding.

My guess is that lots of practitioner's wind up clearing out alot of mental debris, so the idea of ending the practice to them is like the idea of suspending the clean-up crews that pick up the trash from the side of the road.

On the other hand, this point that the practice reinforces the idea that there's someone practicing who is responsible for the practice and benefits from it is one last fist raised to a God mistaken as separate from and outside of the practitioner.

I conjecture that "Resonation" and "vibes" are probably terms that wormed their way into our vocabulary during the initial popularization of the wave/particle duality -- that was roughly concurrent with the commercialization of radio technology as well. Here someone can demur from committing to the notions that they understand or identify with a conceptual structure by saying they resonate with it, just as someone can pass off a negative first impression of another person or a distaste for a situation as a set of bad vibes instead of pinpointing what it is that repugnates them.

We are neither wave media nor wave.

Seems that no matter how nightmarish a persons life gets, there is an aversion to what's false that's a reflection of what we really are.

That what we really are is ineffable on one hand, and that the function of mind and what the mind is a function of is limitation, on the other, isn't some sort of secret. The notion that all that appears to us is false in the sense that it isn't what we are finds expression in spirituality, and the relative nature of conceptual truth finds expression in science.

People find these expressions to be comforting sources of hope. Can you blame them?

Well, no dreamer no dream, right?

Put another way ... are there beings that aren't dreamers? -- not a question I want to logitate about!

In my dream it seems that most of the dreamers don't know they're asleep. Other's know it's a dream but deny it. Some of the rest are silent while other's just shrug and dream of alarm clocks of all shapes, sizes, color and designs!

Hi Enigma,

Can you tell me how could you explore the boundary? Is that really possible?, I know you would say we need to look into what's happening,So this 'looking' is your tool to explore the boundary,isn't it? But the truth is, you are not arriving the truth here, but instead you are bringing the 'seer' into the existence. So instead of removing one, you are adding another one. So to my mind, it has to happen automatically, none of our effect should be involved here, because whatever we do, that would come into the being.So if it happens automatically without our volition, then it comes to an end. I do not say knowing is not possible, but I would say knowing is not possible with our effect. If we put our effect into that, then we are bringing new aspect into the being, then it perpetuate.



RAJ

hi Enigma,

I am not sure whether you have read my paragraph or not. I think you are answering me back by reading the first line of my paragraph. I am saying looking or seeing to understand the illusion would bring the 'seer' into being.

Ok, I try to make point my very clear here, There is no theorizing here, This is what I have directly seen. For an instance consider the happy/unhappy roller coaster, If I suddently comes to know the happy/unhappy rollercoaster,It's a realization,recalling happens inevitably here. But If i were to find whether happy/unhappy roller coaster is true, then the noticer would come into existence, and this noticer lives now. A Best analogy would be you are findining a falls accidently in a mountain while you are trekking is different from you are climbing mountain to find the falls. The later is intiated with intention of finding falls, but the first one has happened to us. So If you look into something with the intention of finding something, then we are bringing noticer or observer into existence, So as long as this observer is in existence, you can't find the truth, because this observer would die if we find the truth. So this truth realization has to happen automatically, if it starts with any of our effect, then we are bringing another aspect into existence, i hope this time I made it clear here. If we look, then looking continues, if we search ,then searching continues, If we do anything, then continution happens of that way, this is the way mind works. So we are left with no way out.

hi Burt,

No, you got me wrong, What I was saying is, seeing through illusion is not possible. For an example when one tries to observe what's happening to see through the illusion, 'the one who sees' comes into the existence. More closely put,Mind reapeates everything according to law of attraction. In the same way when one tries to look into the illusion, the "one who looks" comes into existence and continuously perpetuate,this looking never stops. So the truth can't be found here, because If truth were to found, this 'seer' come to an end. So illusion of anything needs to come to our attention automatically or accidently without any of our effect.