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Post by Portto on Sept 7, 2013 8:08:12 GMT -8
Yeah, basically, whatever one resonates with points to falsity and one's current misdirection. What seems true, whether it 'makes sense' to the mind or 'feels right' on a feeling level, refers to one's current carrot of interest. If one is willing to explore the boundaries of that interest, it can become a kind of Neti-Neti thingy, but of course most are just interested in validating the truth and value of their interest. The seeking process is fundamentally flawed as it originates from a false premise, is directed by a false entity, and is set on false goals. Hencely, whatever is sought can never be found, and what needs to be found is never sought. All the while, nothing at all is hidden, which is why self honesty is so important. Nicely said! Nobody is looking to actually end self-delusion, but only to change/improve the 'dream.' Can we be honest about this? Not by autonomous choice!  |
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Post by enigma on Sept 24, 2013 13:42:47 GMT -8
Yeah, basically, whatever one resonates with points to falsity and one's current misdirection. What seems true, whether it 'makes sense' to the mind or 'feels right' on a feeling level, refers to one's current carrot of interest. If one is willing to explore the boundaries of that interest, it can become a kind of Neti-Neti thingy, but of course most are just interested in validating the truth and value of their interest. The seeking process is fundamentally flawed as it originates from a false premise, is directed by a false entity, and is set on false goals. Hencely, whatever is sought can never be found, and what needs to be found is never sought. All the while, nothing at all is hidden, which is why self honesty is so important. Nicely said! Nobody is looking to actually end self-delusion, but only to change/improve the 'dream.' Can we be honest about this? Not by autonomous choice! Right, the reason self delusion happens in the first place is cuz we're more interested in a better dream than we are the truth. Maybe what helps a bit in this regard is to notice that self delusion never actually works, leading to the possibility that the truth will, but even this is rarely seen for the same reason: the dream seems better if we don't acknowledge that the self delusion isn't working. So mind spends decades getting itself all twisted up in these sorts of knots, and when it hurts badly enough, the unraveling begins, and it can be quite a chore, not because the truth is hard to find but because we've hidden it so well from ourselves. |
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Post by Portto on Sept 25, 2013 4:25:02 GMT -8
... the reason self delusion happens in the first place is cuz we're more interested in a better dream than we are the truth. Maybe what helps a bit in this regard is to notice that self delusion never actually works, leading to the possibility that the truth will, but even this is rarely seen for the same reason: the dream seems better if we don't acknowledge that the self delusion isn't working. So mind spends decades getting itself all twisted up in these sorts of knots, and when it hurts badly enough, the unraveling begins, and it can be quite a chore, not because the truth is hard to find but because we've hidden it so well from ourselves. One day, we find ourselves dreaming, and the only thing we [mind-]know is the content of the dream. So, we keep working feverishly on the dream, believing that the individuation is 'the boss.' However, as you said, it never works for long. Interestingly, most people have some sort of [body-]knowing of a void/Samadhi/death/nothing state. This state is hidden behind the 'dream veil.' |
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