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Post by Gopal on Feb 15, 2013 22:41:48 GMT -8
Joy is not the goal ,Yes I do admit the your point. But I am asking you ,what is your feeling when Love is expressed? Isn't it joy? Raj Of course. If so,experience of Love is equal to experience of JOY, isn't it? But you said experience of Joy cannot be a goal, but you are ready to say experience of Love is your goal,Isn't it?Do you feel any difference between both? |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 15, 2013 23:54:12 GMT -8
And when you say "LOVE moves by itself" it is about loving others ,isn't it? What others?  |
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Post by Gopal on Feb 16, 2013 0:07:19 GMT -8
And when you say "LOVE moves by itself" it is about loving others ,isn't it? What others? I know we are all one. But I was asking him that it is love towards others? |
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Post by Reefs on Feb 16, 2013 2:05:10 GMT -8
I know we are all one. But I was asking him that it is love towards others? Conceptually knowing that is not enough. That question only arises when separation is there. As long as these questions are there, you're only moving thru conceptual realms where everything is conditional, where you look for a purpose and a direction and explanations. |
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Post by Gopal on Feb 16, 2013 8:52:41 GMT -8
I know we are all one. But I was asking him that it is love towards others? Conceptually knowing that is not enough. That question only arises when separation is there. As long as these questions are there, you're only moving thru conceptual realms where everything is conditional, where you look for a purpose and a direction and explanations. I have directly seen the integrated movement in my life,I have felt like everything revolving around me.Even in my roller coaster movement I am experiencing this integrated expression,that is, everything seems to be working for me.Now you need to say to me whether I know conceptually or it's a kind of realization because I couldn't exactly understand what you meant by conceptual knowing, Is it like knowing by reading from some book? Raj |
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Post by enigma on Feb 16, 2013 23:58:39 GMT -8
If so,experience of Love is equal to experience of JOY, isn't it? But you said experience of Joy cannot be a goal, but you are ready to say experience of Love is your goal,Isn't it?Do you feel any difference between both? I don't recall saying the experience of Love is the goal. |
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Post by Gopal on Feb 17, 2013 0:40:37 GMT -8
If so,experience of Love is equal to experience of JOY, isn't it? But you said experience of Joy cannot be a goal, but you are ready to say experience of Love is your goal,Isn't it?Do you feel any difference between both? I don't recall saying the experience of Love is the goal. The reason of expression of LOVE is "YOU are LOVE" ,Is that so? Raj |
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Post by enigma on Feb 18, 2013 8:50:08 GMT -8
I don't recall saying the experience of Love is the goal. The reason of expression of LOVE is "YOU are LOVE" ,Is that so? Raj Yes, it is what you are already. You don't have to become it. Get rid of what you are not. |
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Post by Gopal on Feb 18, 2013 9:00:53 GMT -8
OK, But still I consider the love is the flow the energy,what you are is just the perceiver.
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Post by enigma on Feb 18, 2013 10:35:04 GMT -8
OK, But still I consider the love is the flow the energy,what you are is just the perceiver. I wouldn't say love is a flow of energy. I don't know what that would mean in relation to love. I also don't know what you mean by "just the perceiver". Do you mean a mind/body? |
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Post by roberto on Feb 18, 2013 16:33:08 GMT -8
We could say wanting to 'stay on the positive side' is the reason for suffering. Yes. I should have been more articulate and specific with the content of this post. There is freedom that results from not chasing the highs, and not pushing away the lows. |
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