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Post by Gopal on May 8, 2013 20:31:05 GMT -8
Intelligent is not perceiving entity, so haven't you made a separation between perceiving entity and Intelligent? Intelligent is the one which creates the thoughts and individuals are experiencing those thoughts,isn't it?
RAJ
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Post by enigma on May 9, 2013 8:05:30 GMT -8
Intelligent is not perceiving entity, so haven't you made a separation between perceiving entity and Intelligent? Intelligent is the one which creates the thoughts and individuals are experiencing those thoughts,isn't it? RAJ Yeah. The distinction is being made in order to challenge some ideas about a creator entity who knows and acts on the future. From there, all distinctions between creator and created can be collapsed also. |
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Post by Gopal on May 10, 2013 2:39:56 GMT -8
Are you making the separation between intelligent and perceiving entity or not?
RAJ
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Post by enigma on May 10, 2013 13:54:13 GMT -8
Are you making the separation between intelligent and perceiving entity or not? RAJ I was making a distinction, not a separation. |
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Post by Gopal on May 11, 2013 20:16:49 GMT -8
>>I was making a distinction, not a separation.<<
Could you explain me a little more? Intelligent is not a perceiving entiy in the mean while perceiving entity is not the intelligent,isn't it a separation? Or are you coming to say something else?
RAJ
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Post by enigma on May 11, 2013 21:28:05 GMT -8
>>I was making a distinction, not a separation.<< Could you explain me a little more? Intelligent is not a perceiving entiy in the mean while perceiving entity is not the intelligent,isn't it a separation? Or are you coming to say something else? RAJ You're right, all is one and all distinctions are imaginary. |
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Post by Gopal on May 12, 2013 0:56:52 GMT -8
Actually I was raising question to you. Intelligent is not perceiving entity and perceiving entity is not intelligent(not creator of that thought), If so, clearly separation remains,isn't it?
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Post by enigma on May 12, 2013 18:48:17 GMT -8
Actually I was raising question to you. Intelligent is not perceiving entity and perceiving entity is not intelligent(not creator of that thought), If so, clearly separation remains,isn't it? No, all is one and all distinctions are imaginary. All questions are misconceived. Intelligence, entity and separation are just concepts. "You" is just a concept. |
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Post by Gopal on May 12, 2013 19:44:15 GMT -8
If so, then why did you say Intelligent is not a perceiving entity,and perceiving entity is not creating entity, so your statement creates the separation between intelligent and perceiving entity,is it not?
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Post by enigma on May 13, 2013 10:05:52 GMT -8
If so, then why did you say Intelligent is not a perceiving entity,and perceiving entity is not creating entity, so your statement creates the separation between intelligent and perceiving entity,is it not? All discussion is made up of distinctions, and these distinctions imply separation, which is not true. It's fundamental to languaging, and so there are two ways we can approach it. We can refuse to make distinctions (discuss) or we can accept that all discussion is contextually bound by it's own content, and may or not be useful, but in any case cannot be ultimately true. |
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Post by Anja on Jul 17, 2016 4:23:56 GMT -8
Here is my (ultra-short) definition of what free-will is (and isn't): Some moving life-forms, called humans, are here, in this particular realm of existence, out of their own free will. They incarnated here for the sake of fullfilling a certain purpose here. What ever purpose that may be. Others are not here out of free-will but out of force and neccessity because they are stuck in and bound by the wheel of reincarnation, which means they MUST incarnate, they have no choise. And these are the ones who also "teach", if they teach, that there is no free-will, because there isn't for them. So...for some there is free-will because they somehow ARE free-will and for some there isn't because they aren't. They had no choise to enter a particular body-mind or not. Free-will does not mean one can do what ever one wants to do. Nobody can do what ever one wants to do and that is good so. The freedom of the will lays in the choise to either come here, into this realm of physicallity, or not. Please let me know if you also what to be educated on how karma is related to free-will. Enjoy... Kraftwerk - The Robots (2013 Version - Official Retrospective Video) : www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-R7t-ihoT4 |
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