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Post by enigma on Mar 31, 2013 21:32:49 GMT -8
The struggle to break a habit is a series of strategic mind games designed to prolong the habit, which is why the struggle usually fails. There are no 'programs' that mind has lost control of, no physical withdrawal that mind is not orchestrating and no battle that mind must win in order to overcome. There is just you and your next choice.... You can read the whole article here: www.realizinghappiness.com/habit-game.html
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Post by Gopal on Mar 31, 2013 23:36:28 GMT -8
Another example of such unconscious behavior is denial and projection. We may become angry when something is brought to our attention that we don't want to accept, and we may respond by angrily denying that it's true, but of course we wouldn't be angry unless we already knew it was true. The same game is revealed in projection, whereby we see our own denied behavior in others who are not expressing this behavior, and not in ourselves. The only reason we see it in others is because we see it in ourselves and pretend not to. The same is true of 'unconscious habits'. We're simply pretending not to notice.
"unless we already knew it was true"
What do you mean by 'true' in the above paragraph?
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Post by Portto on Apr 1, 2013 6:11:04 GMT -8
The struggle to break a habit is a series of strategic mind games designed to prolong the habit, which is why the struggle usually fails. There are no 'programs' that mind has lost control of, no physical withdrawal that mind is not orchestrating and no battle that mind must win in order to overcome. There is just you and your next choice.... You can read the whole article here: www.realizinghappiness.com/habit-game.htmlVery nice and useful article! Becoming more conscious is the key!
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Post by enigma on Apr 1, 2013 19:42:56 GMT -8
Another example of such unconscious behavior is denial and projection. We may become angry when something is brought to our attention that we don't want to accept, and we may respond by angrily denying that it's true, but of course we wouldn't be angry unless we already knew it was true. The same game is revealed in projection, whereby we see our own denied behavior in others who are not expressing this behavior, and not in ourselves. The only reason we see it in others is because we see it in ourselves and pretend not to. The same is true of 'unconscious habits'. We're simply pretending not to notice. "unless we already knew it was true" What do you mean by 'true' in the above paragraph? That it's true there was denial and projection.
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Post by enigma on Apr 1, 2013 19:44:43 GMT -8
The struggle to break a habit is a series of strategic mind games designed to prolong the habit, which is why the struggle usually fails. There are no 'programs' that mind has lost control of, no physical withdrawal that mind is not orchestrating and no battle that mind must win in order to overcome. There is just you and your next choice.... You can read the whole article here: www.realizinghappiness.com/habit-game.htmlVery nice and useful article! Becoming more conscious is the key! Thanks. Yes.
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Post by burt on Apr 1, 2013 22:44:32 GMT -8
I choose to specifically refrain from a making a wisecrack about choice! (...unless I just did ... )
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Post by enigma on Apr 2, 2013 8:52:34 GMT -8
I choose to specifically refrain from a making a wisecrack about choice! (...unless I just did ... )Choices are made regardless of from whence they cometh.
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Post by burt on Apr 2, 2013 9:05:19 GMT -8
I choose to specifically refrain from a making a wisecrack about choice! (...unless I just did ... )Choices are made regardless of from whence they cometh. Sounds like a game of "where's waldo?" I wonder if having the same conversation twice in 3 years would qualify as a "habit" ...
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Post by enigma on Apr 2, 2013 10:00:20 GMT -8
Choices are made regardless of from whence they cometh. Sounds like a game of "where's waldo?" I wonder if having the same conversation twice in 3 years would qualify as a "habit" ... You mean where's the Waldo chooser?
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Post by burt on Apr 2, 2013 16:08:37 GMT -8
Sounds like a game of "where's waldo?" I wonder if having the same conversation twice in 3 years would qualify as a "habit" ... You mean where's the Waldo chooser? (** skijump! **)
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Post by Gopal on May 20, 2013 5:11:45 GMT -8
Enigma,
I do not understand what you are exactly meant in this article, For an instance let's take a chain smoker, He suddenly wants to stop smoking, He really wants to quit the habit, But after one or two days he again start to smoke or habit perpetuate. Why this single decision of him doesn't make him to come out of the habit. We can decide but still some sort of pull would be there,isn't it? or are you meant to say something else?
RAJ
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Post by enigma on May 20, 2013 7:32:23 GMT -8
Enigma, I do not understand what you are exactly meant in this article, For an instance let's take a chain smoker, He suddenly wants to stop smoking, He really wants to quit the habit, But after one or two days he again start to smoke or habit perpetuate. Why this single decision of him doesn't make him to come out of the habit. We can decide but still some sort of pull would be there,isn't it? or are you meant to say something else? RAJ I'm saying that "pull" is part of a mind game. Did you read the article? If so, do you have a specific area of disagreement?
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Post by Gopal on May 20, 2013 9:22:10 GMT -8
Here you are saying if we choose to stop,it will stop, Here is where I've a doubt, how is it possible to stop in a single decision? If smoker take a single decision to stop smoking, will it get stopped?,it would not,isn't it? It would pull him if he started to leave,isn't it?
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Post by enigma on May 20, 2013 20:37:47 GMT -8
Here you are saying if we choose to stop,it will stop, Here is where I've a doubt, how is it possible to stop in a single decision? If smoker take a single decision to stop smoking, will it get stopped?,it would not,isn't it? It would pull him if he started to leave,isn't it? If there is no desire to smoke, how can it pull him in?
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Post by Gopal on May 20, 2013 21:38:37 GMT -8
If there is no desire to smoke, how can it pull him in?
Ok, I think I misunderstood what you explained in the article I guess. Any way i need to understand how it is. For an example, he choose to leave the habit of smoking, but this choosing should be stifling or denial rather than genuinely choosing to give up. Isn't it? how are you saying there is no desire to smoke? will he reach such state after he decide?If so, it wouldn't be genuinely choosing,isn't it?
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