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Post by sufilight on Mar 10, 2013 21:57:48 GMT -8
Life, if we come to think of it, is also a feeling self running around, except the feelings in our waking dream are capable of creating and feels more tangible. I'd say our feelings are doing all the creating in our dream state. Or did you mean sumthin else? I am saying that feelings are creative while we are dreaming at night or awake during the day.
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Post by enigma on Mar 11, 2013 23:28:54 GMT -8
I'd say our feelings are doing all the creating in our dream state. Or did you mean sumthin else? I am saying that feelings are creative while we are dreaming at night or awake during the day. Okey dokey.
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Post by Reefs on Mar 12, 2013 20:07:05 GMT -8
"Where does the inquiry come from?" - excellent question! Mucho betterer than "Who am I?" I dare to say... Si, es definitivamente mucho bettererer. I want to play and explore this. As I closed my eyes and asked "who am I?" followed by "where does the inquiry come from?," I was able to see that there is no "who" or "I" ... so the question gets answered by the mind which would be another illusion. Sooo, where does this inquiry come from? It comes from the mind as there is only Existence Itself that gives rise to this inquiry ... No wonder Phil doesn't seem to encourage asking "who am I!" Actually he usually advises against giving advice.
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Post by humphrey on May 31, 2013 7:09:13 GMT -8
Life, if we come to think of it, is also a feeling self running around, except the feelings in our waking dream are capable of creating and feels more tangible. I'd say our feelings are doing all the creating in our dream state. Or did you mean sumthin else? Dream characters are pro Method actors. Form follows feeling, as a dreamy Frank Lloyd Wright might say. I spent much of last night not knowing if I was asleep or awake. There was a continuous noticing, it seemed. The same thing that happens after a while of effortless meditation. (A parenthetical satirical note on 'effortlessness': I noticed last night during a sitting that I was concerned about the data being tallied in a meditation bell app I've been using. It records sittings, time sat, days. I noticed that I've become a bit obsessed at logging effortless meditation data. Ha!) The awake while asleep feeling had me wondering how one knows if they've been asleep or not. A concern crossed my mind several times last night that I was not sleeping and would be tired the next day. But I've also noticed that I seem to need less sleep to feel equally replenished. The buddhists emphasize impermanence. How can impermanence be noticed without at least relative permanence? The meditative/noticing state seems to be the permanent side of the coin with the impermanent side on the other.
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Post by enigma on May 31, 2013 23:00:58 GMT -8
I'd say our feelings are doing all the creating in our dream state. Or did you mean sumthin else? Dream characters are pro Method actors. Form follows feeling, as a dreamy Frank Lloyd Wright might say. I spent much of last night not knowing if I was asleep or awake. There was a continuous noticing, it seemed. The same thing that happens after a while of effortless meditation. (A parenthetical satirical note on 'effortlessness': I noticed last night during a sitting that I was concerned about the data being tallied in a meditation bell app I've been using. It records sittings, time sat, days. I noticed that I've become a bit obsessed at logging effortless meditation data. Ha!) The awake while asleep feeling had me wondering how one knows if they've been asleep or not. A concern crossed my mind several times last night that I was not sleeping and would be tired the next day. But I've also noticed that I seem to need less sleep to feel equally replenished. The buddhists emphasize impermanence. How can impermanence be noticed without at least relative permanence? The meditative/noticing state seems to be the permanent side of the coin with the impermanent side on the other. Indeed, as time is noticed from eternity, and space from infinity, impermanence is movement, noticed from stillness. Quite clearly, then, you are timeless, spaceless stillness. What is meaningful about that is what you are not.
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Post by Portto on Sept 16, 2013 3:32:38 GMT -8
"Our search for happiness is an unconscious search for our true Self." So, if we find our 'true Self' then we become happy all the time, non-stop?
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Post by burt on Sept 20, 2013 7:37:59 GMT -8
"Our search for happiness is an unconscious search for our true Self." So, if we find our 'true Self' then we become happy all the time, non-stop? Paa- shaw .. well ... like .. of course! You did know my last name is Bliss, right?
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Post by Reefs on Sept 22, 2013 3:39:46 GMT -8
"Our search for happiness is an unconscious search for our true Self." So, if we find our 'true Self' then we become happy all the time, non-stop? Nope. I take happiness as the conceptual version of the natural state. The search for happiness is based on a misconception.
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Post by Reefs on Sept 22, 2013 5:36:07 GMT -8
So, if we find our 'true Self' then we become happy all the time, non-stop? Paa- shaw .. well ... like .. of course! You did know my last name is Bliss, right?
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Post by Gopal on Sept 22, 2013 21:39:45 GMT -8
Can you explain me what do you mean by 'maintaining the illusion becomes a priority' here?
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Post by enigma on Sept 24, 2013 16:12:21 GMT -8
Can you explain me what do you mean by 'maintaining the illusion becomes a priority' here? It's a priority, to mind, to maintain the illusion.
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Post by Gopal on Sept 24, 2013 20:34:33 GMT -8
what do you mean by priority here? It picks the illusion over truth?
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Post by Portto on Sept 25, 2013 3:53:20 GMT -8
Paa- shaw .. well ... like .. of course! You did know my last name is Bliss, right? Hehe, Bliss is way better than happiness!
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Post by Portto on Sept 25, 2013 3:57:04 GMT -8
So, if we find our 'true Self' then we become happy all the time, non-stop? Nope. I take happiness as the conceptual version of the natural state. The search for happiness is based on a misconception. Darn, even finding the 'true self' can't make people happy forever... What's a person to do?
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Post by Reefs on Sept 25, 2013 22:47:39 GMT -8
Nope. I take happiness as the conceptual version of the natural state. The search for happiness is based on a misconception. Darn, even finding the 'true self' can't make people happy forever... What's a person to do? Follow the white rabbit.
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