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Post by humphrey on Feb 5, 2013 10:54:51 GMT -8
I'm still interested in the child that finds herself without enough food. I know that the suffering I experience related to this example is because of how I think about this example. But I'm thinking about the child herself and the suffering she has. I'm also down with the idea that the reason she finds herself without food has less to do with her own beliefs and thoughts and more to do with the dominant mindset of the society and culture she lives in. But the fact is that if she doesn't have enough food she feels discomfort and pain in all sorts of ways. Her resistance to her reality no doubt adds to this pain and discomfort and suffering, but resisting it seems totally natural. How can the conditions of this child change with acceptance of the conditions? It won't. Acceptance means no more fear, no more greed, no more denial or judgment. Without that in the world, how could a child starve? How could anyone be ignored or harmed? This is the approach by most hardcore belief systems -- if everyone just believed the same thing as me, then there wouldn't be any problems. It seems to me that a world where there is no more fear, no more greed, no more denial or judgement, is all just a fun pipedream. So the question is, while being the change we wish to see in the world, and knowing that not everyone is going to take up that same beingness, how do we nonetheless make change that'll get food to this girl, etc.? No.
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Post by enigma on Feb 5, 2013 17:12:21 GMT -8
It won't. Acceptance means no more fear, no more greed, no more denial or judgment. Without that in the world, how could a child starve? How could anyone be ignored or harmed? This is the approach by most hardcore belief systems -- if everyone just believed the same thing as me, then there wouldn't be any problems. It seems to me that a world where there is no more fear, no more greed, no more denial or judgement, is all just a fun pipedream. So the question is, while being the change we wish to see in the world, and knowing that not everyone is going to take up that same beingness, how do we nonetheless make change that'll get food to this girl, etc.? I dunno. Sounds pretty tricky. I guess you know that Dalai Lama has not succeeded in feeding that girl, right?
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Post by humphrey on Feb 6, 2013 7:23:05 GMT -8
This is the approach by most hardcore belief systems -- if everyone just believed the same thing as me, then there wouldn't be any problems. It seems to me that a world where there is no more fear, no more greed, no more denial or judgement, is all just a fun pipedream. So the question is, while being the change we wish to see in the world, and knowing that not everyone is going to take up that same beingness, how do we nonetheless make change that'll get food to this girl, etc.? I dunno. Sounds pretty tricky. I guess you know that Dalai Lama has not succeeded in feeding that girl, right? Pretty tricky indeed. The Lama seems like a sweet guy. Very humble. He's able to say "I don't know..." in a way that is truly believable and not just strategic. He seems to be managing to walk his talk while building some sort of political pressure to get folks back to their homeland. I love how he accepts much of the Chinese argument about the inequalities that were present in Tibet. His is a huge task, and may be best judged in retrospect. Thich Nhat Han also seems extremely sweet. I remember hearing him interviewed just after 9-11-01. He was asked what he would do with the terrorists. He said he'd want to sit down with them and listen, really listen to what they want to say. And then just be quiet for a long time. (Presumeably some divine insight would pop up as a result). He's also done a bit to help bridge buddhism and Christianity. I have a born-again friend that read his books on the stuff. Then there's Aung San Suu Kyi, just sitting (under house arrest) while the Junta slowly eases up. Appears to have 'worked.'
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Post by Anja on Jul 14, 2016 5:18:57 GMT -8
Jan: "What are you gonna do today, Anja?"
Anja: "I maybe prove Enigma wrong on all levels he thinks he's right. And what are you going to do today, Jan?"
Jan: "I'm doing a demo of the song I wrote on my bike yesterday for the band to listen to it so they can tell me how they like it. You wanna hear it also?"
Anja: "Sure. Just call me when you're ready."
Jan: "I will. Have a nice destroying illusions day, babe. Wanna eat at Sushi-Wabi-Sabi tonight?"
Anja: "Wabi-Sabi is closed. They're on vacation."
Jan: "What?! That ruins my whole day! Since when are they allowed to go on vacation?! I did not approve it!"
Anja: "But I did. What about having sushi at Kinko's?"
Jan: "Kinko is just second best. But okay. You pick me up at the studio?"
Anja: "Yes. Just gimme a call."
Jan: "I gotta hurry now. See you later."
Anja: "See you later."
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Post by Anja on Jul 14, 2016 8:12:02 GMT -8
(In Kinko's Sushi Bar)
Rachel: "I'm so glad you're not upset that I join you here tonight, Anja. It just happened that I was around the corner from Jan's studion and then I..."
Anja: "No problem, Rachel. I'm sooo glad you're not upset that Jan married me out of duty. But as you know we don't have sex and we never will have sex. We're just a married couple."
Rachel: "Well...then...why do you live together?"
Anja: "Good question. Why do we live together, Jan?"
Jan: "Kinko! Master Kinko! Please bring us warm sake. A lot of warm sake!"
Kinko: "Here it is, master Jan. I already prepared sake for you and your ladys."
Jan: "You are the best Sushi-Bar owner in town, Kinko. Am I right, Anja? Rachel?"
Anja: "Yes, for today that's true."
Rachel: "Yes. But now tell me, Jan, why do you live together with Anja, if you just married her out of duty?"
Anja: "Yes, Jan, that I wanna know too."
Kinko: "Me wanna know also, master Jan."
Jan: "Because...because...äh... because it's an experiement. That's why."
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