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Post by enigma on Feb 6, 2013 12:03:16 GMT -8
Getting off the roller coaster may seem that way at first.  When the mind is still producing a storm of desires even watching a beautiful sunset will be dull and mediocre. When the mind stops producing desires, there are no thoughts of dullness or mediocrity because there are no thoughts about something else to compare this moment to. Nothing is gained, there is only the absence of thoughts of about dullness and mediocrity. Yes. |
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Post by roberto on Feb 6, 2013 16:36:13 GMT -8
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Post by enigma on Feb 7, 2013 9:16:46 GMT -8
I like this. Tried to say it once. It doesn't go over well with the permanent joy folks.  |
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Post by roberto on Feb 8, 2013 22:41:55 GMT -8
I like this. Tried to say it once. It doesn't go over well with the permanent joy folks. I had a talk to my mom about that the other day. We talked about fear specifically. She got really excited about it saying how it made sense, then she proceeded to tell me about "The Secret" and LOA. ** Facepalm ** Oh well. Gotta love her |
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Post by enigma on Feb 9, 2013 8:58:56 GMT -8
I like this. Tried to say it once. It doesn't go over well with the permanent joy folks. I had a talk to my mom about that the other day. We talked about fear specifically. She got really excited about it saying how it made sense, then she proceeded to tell me about "The Secret" and LOA. ** Facepalm ** Oh well. Gotta love her  Sounds like maybe she heard 'transformation'. |
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Post by roberto on Feb 9, 2013 19:23:15 GMT -8
She wants to be free from the negative experience and accumulate as much crap as humanly possible without having to actually do anything. She wants to have peace and ease, but she doesn't want to give anything up, especially control on life and everyone around her.
So, anything she hears she rearranges it to match her ideal reality.
I refer to my mom as the Tazmanian devil. I love her, but she's pretty lost. I feel bad for her at times, but helping her is 97% futile.
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Post by Reefs on Feb 10, 2013 1:05:51 GMT -8
She wants to be free from the negative experience and accumulate as much crap as humanly possible without having to actually do anything. That's possible, but it requires continuous effort. Read more about it in the yoga sutras. That's conditional ease and peace and it is possible. But it requires continuous effort and self-monitoring. |
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Post by Gopal on Feb 10, 2013 1:16:38 GMT -8
She wants to be free from the negative experience and accumulate as much crap as humanly possible without having to actually do anything. That's possible, but it requires continuous effort. Read more about it in the yoga sutras. That's conditional ease and peace and it is possible. But it requires continuous effort and self-monitoring. Self monitoring also one of the creation, because observing something IS Observing thought itself.Since self monitoring is creation, it will be re-created like many other creation though truth is realized in the result of self-monitoring. Raj |
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Post by roberto on Feb 10, 2013 9:19:03 GMT -8
She wants to be free from the negative experience and accumulate as much crap as humanly possible without having to actually do anything. That's possible, but it requires continuous effort. Read more about it in the yoga sutras. That's conditional ease and peace and it is possible. But it requires continuous effort and self-monitoring. Hahaha! I'm aware of what's required. What you call continuous effort I call struggle. Struggle is suffering. |
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Post by roberto on Feb 10, 2013 9:22:38 GMT -8
I'll take the ups and downs, lows and highs over control, struggle, and fatigue any day.
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Post by Reefs on Feb 10, 2013 9:37:19 GMT -8
Hahaha! I'm aware of what's required.
What you call continuous effort I call struggle. Struggle is suffering. Depends on your situation and what you have going on, i.e. how far out to lunch you are. It can get very very subtle. Conditional happiness and ease and peace and joy is basically about focus/attention only. It's only a struggle when you don't know about leverage. |
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Post by silvery1 on May 29, 2013 10:47:05 GMT -8
Hahaha! I'm aware of what's required.
What you call continuous effort I call struggle. Struggle is suffering. Depends on your situation and what you have going on, i.e. how far out to lunch you are. It can get very very subtle. Conditional happiness and ease and peace and joy is basically about focus/attention only. It's only a struggle when you don't know about leverage. Would you explain what you mean by 'leverage'? |
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Post by Reefs on May 30, 2013 3:47:36 GMT -8
Depends on your situation and what you have going on, i.e. how far out to lunch you are. It can get very very subtle. Conditional happiness and ease and peace and joy is basically about focus/attention only. It's only a struggle when you don't know about leverage. Would you explain what you mean by 'leverage'? Sitting at the hub of the wheel and moving it from there instead of sitting at the outer edge of the wheel and trying to move it from there. And momentum, of course! |
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Post by silvery1 on Jun 4, 2013 11:01:32 GMT -8
Thanks, I'm enjoying this read. |
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Post by silvery1 on Jun 4, 2013 11:02:37 GMT -8
Would you explain what you mean by 'leverage'? Sitting at the hub of the wheel and moving it from there instead of sitting at the outer edge of the wheel and trying to move it from there. And momentum, of course! Thx for responding - I just don't get the picture - yet. |
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