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Post by relinquish on Jan 23, 2013 17:59:00 GMT -8
Yeah, I know. I'm a one trick pony. Deal with it!  The most fundamental aspect of any'thing' is the totality of everything 'else' that is not that thing. In anything, we can see everything. In truth, there are no 'particular things'. There is only 'What IS'. 'What IS' does not require anything 'else' in order for 'it' to exist, and so exists causelessly, without another, forever and ever. Therefore, 'What IS' can not be 'something'. 'What IS' is actually 'nothing', and so remains eternaly 'un-manifested'. This causeless, infinite 'ISness' is the most real possible reality. 'IT' simply 'IS'. Forever necessarily from this infinite, eternal reality apparently arises it's absolute opposite; 'Manifestation'. This apparent arising is itself an illusory effect that doesn't actually exist separately from the eternal nothingness of 'What IS', and so takes presicely the form of what ISN'T. What ISN'T is 'duality'. I.E., Movement/stillness, change/changelessness, form/emptiness, sound/silence, structure/foundation, absolute chaos/absolute order, observed/observer. From this illusory arising of duality emanates the apparent 'manyness' known as 'everything'. Therefore, everything is actually nothing, appearing as many things. |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 23, 2013 21:44:13 GMT -8
Well, that 'nothing' word is a tricky one, isn't it? The mind boggles!  |
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Post by enigma on Jan 23, 2013 22:45:25 GMT -8
Well, that 'nothing' word is a tricky one, isn't it? The mind boggles! What mind has to do is imagine a nothing floating in the air, maybe a little off to the left, and imagine all sorts of things falling out of it. Trees, unicorns, drink straws, etc. Then it's okay.  |
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Post by silence on Jan 23, 2013 22:51:13 GMT -8
Hey there Stillness.
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Post by relinquish on Jan 23, 2013 23:21:49 GMT -8
Well, that 'nothing' word is a tricky one, isn't it? The mind boggles! As complex as my concept seems, it's actually a way of saying that Existence itself is infinitely simpler than it can EVER be imagined to be. |
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Post by relinquish on Jan 23, 2013 23:28:15 GMT -8
Well, that 'nothing' word is a tricky one, isn't it? The mind boggles! What mind has to do is imagine a nothing floating in the air, maybe a little off to the left, and imagine all sorts of things falling out of it. Trees, unicorns, drink straws, etc. Then it's okay. From the real to the real, the unreal falls forever.  |
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Post by relinquish on Jan 23, 2013 23:29:36 GMT -8
G'day Silence!  |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 24, 2013 6:38:20 GMT -8
Since we are talking about 'nothing'... 'Literal'? |
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Post by enigma on Jan 24, 2013 10:04:25 GMT -8
Since we are talking about 'nothing'... 'Literal'? Seems like losing the moon would be a secondary concern. Why does she ask if that's what we really want?  |
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Post by relinquish on Jan 24, 2013 10:58:45 GMT -8
Since we are talking about 'nothing'... 'Literal'? I agree with most of what she says here. It can become crystal clear that it is not possible for a 'particular thing' to ever really come into being. I don't agree with, "It's all the reflection of a concept attached to inside". Because 'inside' is also illusory. I have no idea where she's going with the question though.... |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 24, 2013 18:29:52 GMT -8
Seems like losing the moon would be a secondary concern.
Why does she ask if that's what we really want? Sounds like she's pointing to dreamless deep sleep? |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 24, 2013 18:44:18 GMT -8
I agree with most of what she says here. It can become crystal clear that it is not possible for a 'particular thing' to ever really come into being.
I don't agree with, "It's all the reflection of a concept attached to inside". Because 'inside' is also illusory.
I have no idea where she's going with the question though.... Maybe the questions are leading to her famous 4 questions. ;D 1) Is it true that the world doesn't exist, literally?Well, I'm here answering a question. So...
2) Can I absolutely know that it's true that the world doesn't exist? Well, I'm here answering another question. So... 3) How do I react, what happens when I believe that thought?I will question my own existence. 4) Who would I be without that thought?Someone who doesn't question his own existence.
5) Turnaround: Turn the thought around. Then find at least three specific, genuine examples of how each turnaround is true for you in this situation. The world does exist. Phew!! |
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Post by enigma on Jan 24, 2013 19:04:58 GMT -8
Seems like losing the moon would be a secondary concern.
Why does she ask if that's what we really want? Sounds like she's pointing to dreamless deep sleep? Maybe she wrote it in her sleep? |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 24, 2013 21:07:45 GMT -8
Maybe she wrote it in her sleep? Well, dunno, at least it would explain why she mentioned the moon...  |
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Post by spongey on Jan 25, 2013 10:01:18 GMT -8
I just read that question (not the moon one, that's just strange) as her asking about our fears? Are you ready to loose everything? (I.e. Non-duality/awakening is a loss not a gain).
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