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Post by spongey on Feb 24, 2013 19:32:35 GMT -8
There's certainly nothing wrong with the seeking because seeking, not seeking, being happy, being sad, crazy....whatever. Doesn't matter. You're saying suffering/not suffering doesn't matter? Didn't really mean to imply that....so much....really. Misunderstood u again :-( (Sorry rubbish at quoting in parts!)
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Post by Reefs on Feb 28, 2013 6:57:50 GMT -8
What's the 'it' that's getting subtle? :-)
Could I live without needing the answers?...mmmm. Right now, there's a strong urge to keep investigating...I can see how that makes no sense whatsoever. Well, the distinctions, escape plan or no escape plan. Maybe a new rule of thumb: "If it isn't spontaneous + effortless then it's an escape plan and isn't worth it." ;D
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Post by enigma on Feb 28, 2013 7:24:40 GMT -8
What's the 'it' that's getting subtle? :-)
Could I live without needing the answers?...mmmm. Right now, there's a strong urge to keep investigating...I can see how that makes no sense whatsoever. Well, the distinctions, escape plan or no escape plan. Maybe a new rule of thumb: "If it isn't spontaneous + effortless then it's an escape plan and isn't worth it." ;D Yes, spontaneous and effortless is a much betterer escape plan.
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Post by Reefs on Feb 28, 2013 9:00:38 GMT -8
Yes, spontaneous and effortless is a much betterer escape plan. Yeah, rules (of thumb) are mucho spontaneous and demasiado effortless.
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Post by spongey on Feb 28, 2013 21:51:50 GMT -8
What's the 'it' that's getting subtle? :-)
Could I live without needing the answers?...mmmm. Right now, there's a strong urge to keep investigating...I can see how that makes no sense whatsoever. Well, the distinctions, escape plan or no escape plan. Maybe a new rule of thumb: "If it isn't spontaneous + effortless then it's an escape plan and isn't worth it." ;D Mmm Me gusta mucho- I like it. I don't have to do anything.
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Post by spongey on Feb 28, 2013 21:55:13 GMT -8
Actually all this seeking lark really is exhausting.
Time to ease up and not even going to 'do' that!
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Post by relinquish on Feb 28, 2013 23:37:27 GMT -8
Actually all this seeking lark really is exhausting. Time to ease up and not even going to 'do' that! Ask yourself (as much as it may seem as if they REALLY DO exist), how could it be possible for separate originators of movement called 'you' and 'me' and 'us' to ACTUALLY exist? I know this question may sound silly. Ask it anyway.
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Post by Reefs on Mar 1, 2013 0:17:01 GMT -8
Actually all this seeking lark really is exhausting.
Time to ease up and not even going to 'do' that! exhausted seeking lark:
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Post by spongey on Mar 1, 2013 0:24:06 GMT -8
Actually all this seeking lark really is exhausting. Time to ease up and not even going to 'do' that! Ask yourself (as much as it may seem as if they REALLY DO exist), how could it be possible for separate originators of movement called 'you' and 'me' and 'us' to ACTUALLY exist? I know this question may sound silly. Ask it anyway. Didn't you hear me? I said I was giving it a rest lol :-) Honestly, I've done a lot of enquiry and I see that I've been trying to answer the questions (unintentionally) with my mind, but knowing there's no Me or You hasn't helped (was a belief mainly).
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Post by spongey on Mar 1, 2013 0:24:58 GMT -8
Actually all this seeking lark really is exhausting.
Time to ease up and not even going to 'do' that! exhausted seeking lark: Ha ha ha should use it as my avatar
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Post by relinquish on Mar 1, 2013 1:43:57 GMT -8
Ask yourself (as much as it may seem as if they REALLY DO exist), how could it be possible for separate originators of movement called 'you' and 'me' and 'us' to ACTUALLY exist? I know this question may sound silly. Ask it anyway. Didn't you hear me? I said I was giving it a rest lol :-) Honestly, I've done a lot of enquiry and I see that I've been trying to answer the questions (unintentionally) with my mind, but knowing there's no Me or You hasn't helped (was a belief mainly). Do you know that what you actually are is without another, forever and ever? Without beginning, ending or edge? Coz it is. You ARE the eternal infinity itself. This I know beyond a shadow of a doubt. Maybe one day you will too.
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Post by silence on Mar 1, 2013 14:08:01 GMT -8
Honestly, I've done a lot of enquiry and I see that I've been trying to answer the questions (unintentionally) with my mind. Yes, that's very important to recognize. I'd say you're finally starting to be honest with yourself. Any spiritual practice can equally be used to hide out in the mind as it can be used to shed light on it. The usefulness of inquiry is to direct attention in the same way you would move a flashlight to shed light on a dark corner and then simply look and be silent. In doing so you release mind from the role of protector and with that, slowly but surely release it from it's diseased state of neurosis. In other words, what you really are doesn't require any healing or transformation. All that's happening is slowly conquering your fears of allowing mind to function as it's going to function while simultaneously removing your sense of self from every falsity you've ever believed.
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Post by burt on Mar 1, 2013 19:47:44 GMT -8
Honestly, I've done a lot of enquiry and I see that I've been trying to answer the questions (unintentionally) with my mind. Yes, that's very important to recognize. I'd say you're finally starting to be honest with yourself. Any spiritual practice can equally be used to hide out in the mind as it can be used to shed light on it. The usefulness of inquiry is to direct attention in the same way you would move a flashlight to shed light on a dark corner and then simply look and be silent. In doing so you release mind from the role of protector and with that, slowly but surely release it from it's diseased state of neurosis. In other words, what you really are doesn't require any healing or transformation. All that's happening is slowly conquering your fears of allowing mind to function as it's going to function while simultaneously removing your sense of self from every falsity you've ever believed. Thats some gourmet carrotcake there oh silent one!
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Post by silence on Mar 2, 2013 11:35:43 GMT -8
Yes, that's very important to recognize. I'd say you're finally starting to be honest with yourself. Any spiritual practice can equally be used to hide out in the mind as it can be used to shed light on it. The usefulness of inquiry is to direct attention in the same way you would move a flashlight to shed light on a dark corner and then simply look and be silent. In doing so you release mind from the role of protector and with that, slowly but surely release it from it's diseased state of neurosis. In other words, what you really are doesn't require any healing or transformation. All that's happening is slowly conquering your fears of allowing mind to function as it's going to function while simultaneously removing your sense of self from every falsity you've ever believed. Thats some gourmet carrotcake there oh silent one! Haha, well said. Yum yum!
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Post by spongey on Mar 2, 2013 20:55:25 GMT -8
Ha ha ha ha...I'm laughing because I just went on the other forum! It's a funny read over there :-)
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